Briefing on the Social Security (Work-Focused Interviews) Regulations 2000

What the regulations mean
When does it apply?
What is the requirement?
What is the effect of not fulfilling the requirement?
What protection does a claimant have?
CPAG's concerns
Recommendations

 

These regulations, which came into force on 3rd April 2000, relate to the introduction of compulsory work-focused interviews as a requirement for receiving benefits. They relate to sections 57 and 58 of the Welfare Reform and Pensions Act 1999. They are integral to the ONE scheme. People claiming benefit are allocated a personal adviser who deals with all their claims from one office and interviews them about their work history, prospects and opportunities.

The ONE scheme has been running, on a voluntary basis, in pilot areas in three different variants. In each area, either the Benefits Agency, Employment Service and/or the local authority is the 'designated authority' taking the lead on the scheme. Since June 1999 a basic version of the scheme has been introduced in Clyde Coast and Renfrew, South East Essex, Warwickshire and Lea Roding. Initial contact is made to a start-up adviser who takes basic details, issues the appropriate claim forms and allocates a personal adviser. Since November 1999 claimants in Calderdale and Kirklees, South East Gwent, Somerset and Buckinghamshire have been testing a 'call centre' variant where initial contact is made by the telephone. Pilots involving the private and voluntary sector have been introduced in Leeds, Suffolk, North Nottinghamshire and North Cheshire.

These pilots are due to run and be assessed until 2002, when a decision will be made on whether to apply them nationally. However, on the 16th March 2000 the Government announced the merging of the Benefits Agency and Employment Service to create a new ONE agency.[footnote 1] Therefore, it appears inevitable that the scheme will be extended in some form.

CPAG believes that the ONE scheme has much to offer: a single point of contact for claimants; advice and help on maximising their benefit entitlement; assistance with getting into work if they want to. However we believe that prematurely introducing compulsion and a penalty which deprives claimants of all benefit entitlement undermines much of what is positive.

We hope that the regulations will be substantially altered before the scheme is made national. Below we lay out:


What the regulations mean
The regulations apply to any person who:

  • normally resides in Great Britain;
  • lives in a pilot area;
  • is not doing paid work for 16 or more hours a week;
  • is under 60; and
  • makes a claim for any benefit except a widow's payment or disability living allowance. (regs 4 and 5).

Renewal claims for housing or council tax benefit (or where the claimant has moved house within the same local authority area) will not give rise to a requirement to attend an interview (reg 5(2)). People claiming jobseeker's allowance will continue to attend JobCentres and be interviewed by Employment Service staff about their benefit claim and jobseeking activity (reg. 5(1)(b & c)).

The requirement to take part in an interview will be waived where it is decided that the interview would not be of assistance to the claimant or would not be appropriate in the circumstances of their case (reg 7). The benefit claim can then be processed and assessed without attending a ONE office. There are no general categories of exempt persons, although some guidance will be given.

Most interviews will take place at the ONE office but the personal adviser can decide to hold it elsewhere, including at the claimant's home, if s/he believes it is unreasonable to expect the claimant to attend the office (reg 10(2)).

When does it apply?
Most people will be required to attend a work-focused interview as soon as they indicate that they wish to claim a benefit. Although the Government has said that the interview should be held within three days in most cases, the regulations merely state that it should be 'as soon as reasonably practicable' (regulation 8(1)).

Where it is decided that the interview would not be of assistance to that person at that time or would not be appropriate at that time, the requirement to take part in an interview in order to get benefit will be deferred (reg 8). The decision maker will decide when the interview should take place.

In addition, existing claimants may be required to take part in a work-focused interview.

  • Lone-parents (unless they are claiming on the grounds of incapacity for work) will be required to attend an interview every 12 months (reg 6 (1) and (3)).
  • For other claimants the events which would trigger a requirement to attend a work-focused interview are (reg 6 (1) and (4)):
    – satisfying the personal capability assessment' (the test of incapacity for work);
    – ceasing to receive invalid care allowance;
    – starting or stopping part-time work;
    – finishing a training course that was arranged by their personal adviser;
    – turning 18.

What is the requirement?
In order to get benefit, claimants must both attend a work-focused interview and take part to the satisfaction of their personal adviser (reg 11 (1)).

To fulfil the requirement to have taken part in an interview claimants must provide answers about (reg 11(2)):

  • the level of their educational qualifications;
  • their employment history;
  • any vocational training they have done;
  • any employment-related skills;
  • any work they are doing, paid or unpaid;
  • any medical condition which they believe puts them at a disadvantage in getting employment;
  • any caring or childcare responsibilities.

Claimants under the age of 18 will have an interview with the Careers Service.

What is the effect of not fulfilling the requirement?

  • Where a claimant is making an initial claim for benefit, s/he will be regarded as not having made a claim if it is decided that s/he has not taken part in an interview (reg 12 (1) and (2) (a)). All her/his benefit claims will lapse and s/he will need to make new claims to get any benefit (reg 12 (10)).
  • If a claimant is already receiving benefits but fails to take part in an interview which was deferred, her/his benefits will be stopped (reg 12 (1) and (2) (b)).
  • Where the requirement to attend a work-focused interview is because of a trigger or is an annual interview for a lone-parent, a claimant's benefit will be reduced by 20 per cent of the income support personal allowance for over 25s – a reduction of £10.44 from April 2000 (reg 12 (1 and 2 c)).

What protection does a claimant have?
The Government has said that three attempts should be made to contact a claimant before her/his benefit is stopped or claim rejected.[footnote 2] However, the regulations do not provide for this and allow only five working days for a claimant to demonstrate 'good cause' for having failed to take part in an interview before a decision will be made (reg 12 (1)(c)).

Claimants will have a further month from the date of notification of the decision to show that they had good cause for failing to take part in the interview and that they could not reasonably have brought the relevant facts to the personal adviser's notice within the five-day period (regulation 12 (12)).

A list of matters which can be taken into account when determining good cause are specified, including language and literacy difficulties, attending a job interview and sudden illness or relapse affecting a person the claimant cares for (reg 14).

CPAG's concerns
CPAG has concerns about these regulations in a number of areas:

The work focus – the regulations make clear that this interview is about work and enhancing claimant's opportunities for employment (reg 3). Whilst we accept the need for a focus on employment, we do not believe that this should exclude offering claimants other appropriate advice and information. The Government has spoken about the 'welfare contract'. In return for claimants supplying correct information in relation to their claims and availing themselves of employment opportunities, the Government would make claiming benefits simpler and supply better notification about entitlements. In view of this 'welfare contract', we believe that these regulations should lay down the agencies' obligations to help claimants maximise their income and inform them of any benefits to which they are entitled. The guidance suggests that a benefit expert will check over the benefit claim forms and will discuss any claiming problems with the person after the interview. Whilst this is certainly helpful, guidance is not binding and it falls short of a duty to maximise income.

Compulsion – The requirements placed on jobseekers are contained in the jobseeker's allowance regulations. These regulations, therefore, apply to people who do not have to be available for work to claim benefit, for example, because they are sick or have caring responsibilities. For some of these claimants, discussing work prospects may be of little or no benefit. It seems unduly onerous for the agencies to have to interview annually lone parents, particularly as many will be repeating the same information they gave last year. It would seem far more sensible to invite annually lone parents to an interview. If there has been a change in their circumstances such that the interview would be helpful to them, they would be able to attend. Compulsion is likely to confuse and alarm many vulnerable claimants. It is difficult to disentangle a requirement to talk about getting a job from the perception of a requirement to get a job. The worry this creates for those who feel unable to take up employment for genuine reasons may prevent them from fully answering the personal adviser's questions, which may lead to a decision that they have failed to 'take part in their interview'.

There is much about the ONE scheme which is positive and helpful to claimants. If the scheme is seen as advantageous, then we would expect people to take it up. We are concerned that the introduction of compulsion may taint the positive aspects of the scheme, leading some claimants to view it with suspicion. Analysis of research into the pilots is not due until 2002. It would seem preferable to wait until the operation of the scheme can be assessed before making it compulsory.

Relationship with incapacity for work – The issuing of a personal capability assessment (PCA) to determine a person's incapacity for work triggers a work-focused interview. In ONE pilot areas, the PCA also functions as 'capability report', enabling the personal adviser to assess the barriers to work faced by the claimant. Our concern is twofold.

1) In order to 'take part' in the interview and get benefit, the claimant is required to talk about her/his medical condition if s/he believes it is a barrier to work. This could create situations where claimants are compelled to discuss personal, perhaps embarrassing, details with a non-medically qualified personal adviser. They will in any case already have discussed this with a DSS doctor who has agreed that they are incapable of work.

2) Claimants may reasonably fear that information about their medical condition will be passed to the benefit decision maker by their personal adviser. Although the capability report itself cannot be used to decide capacity for work, the adviser could, nevertheless, take it upon themselves to contact the decision maker with their own views. This could prejudice the chances of an open, enabling relationship with the adviser, which is critical to the success of the interview.

We believe that the requirement to discuss medical conditions in order to 'take part' in the interview should be removed.

Timing of the interview – If the requirement to attend an interview arises in connection with a first claim, the claimant will receive no benefit until it has been determined that s/he took part in an interview. Therefore, it is not acceptable that an interview takes place merely 'as soon as practicable'. Many people claim benefits because they have reached some kind of crisis or major life-event (for example, they may have just lost a job, had a baby, fallen ill, become a carer or split up from a partner). It may, therefore, be difficult for the claimant to attend the first interview available. Other factors may make it difficult for an interview to take place within three days – poor transport in rural areas, personal advisers with overloaded caseloads or any of the many 'good cause' reasons listed in the regulations. In these circumstances, claimants need to receive some benefit until an interview can be arranged. We suggest that in cases where a work-focused interview cannot be arranged within three days, claimants should be treated as entitled to benefit until it is determined that they have, without good cause, failed to take part in a work-focused interview.

Applying the penalty – We welcome the Government's intention that attempts should be made to find out why a claimant has not attended an interview before making a decision to reject a claim or terminate entitlement, in order to protect the vulnerable. However, the regulations only allow claimants five working days to demonstrate good cause and place no requirement on the agencies to make such enquiries. Without a duty in regulations, any guidance the Government might give has no binding effect.

Whilst the listing of matters which might potentially demonstrate good cause for failing to take part in an interview is welcome, for the sake of clarity it should be explained that the list is not exhaustive.

As with the timing of the interview, where a delay is inevitable in making decisions about good cause matters a claimant should be treated as entitled to the specified benefits until the decision is made.

Inability to request a waiver, deferment of interview or a home visit – There is no mechanism either in the Act or under the regulations which would enable claimants to ask for a home visit or explain why they believe an interview should be deferred. The only method they could use to raise such matters would be to fail to take part in an interview and then claim good cause – this may lead to considerable delay on their claims.

The penalties – CPAG opposes the complete removal of entitlement to all specified benefits (this may include housing and council tax benefits) for claimants who fail to take part in a work-focused interview. Jobseeker's allowance claimants are entitled to apply for hardship payments if their jobseeker's allowance is removed, for example because of failure to attend a compulsory training scheme. Claimants who are not required to be available for work should not be treated more harshly and left with no benefit to live on at all, regardless of needs or vulnerability. It will obviously have adverse effects on any children living in such families. Many of the most vulnerable claimants are on sickness and disability benefits and will be subject to work-focused interviews. Removing all their benefit from them will only make them more vulnerable and may alienate them from the system.

Inability to exercise the right of appeal – Although claimants are afforded a right of appeal, this is a 'hollow right' as they will have no money to live on until the appeal is heard and the decision altered. The average wait for an appeal hearing in January 2000 was 14 weeks. Eight weeks' rent arrears now constitute automatic grounds for repossession of an assured shorthold tenancy. If a private tenant had had her/his housing benefit claim rejected her/his home may well have been repossessed by the time the appeal was heard. In order to make the right of appeal meaningful, then as a minimum claimants must be able to receive housing and council tax benefits and hardship payments until their appeal is finally determined.

Recommendations
Before the scheme goes national CPAG recommends that:

  • There is a duty placed on the personal adviser to maximise the claimants' income and inform them of any benefits to which they may be entitled.
  • Compulsion should not be introduced until the effect of the ONE scheme has been fully evaluated.
    Claimants should not be required to discuss medical complaints as a condition of fully 'taking part' in the interview.
  • If a work-focused interview following an initial claim cannot be arranged within three days, the claimant should be treated as entitled to benefits until a decision on her/his participation in an interview has been made.
  • Claimants should have a mechanism to request that an interview be waived or deferred or that a home visit should be arranged; and a right of appeal against any refusal.
  • The agencies' duty to attempt to contact claimants to find out why they failed to take part in an interview should be laid down in legislation.
  • The regulations should make clear that the list of 'good cause' provisions is not exhaustive.
    When a claimant appeals a decision about a work-focused interview s/he should be treated as entitled to benefits until the appeal is finally determined.
  • A system of hardship payments should be set up for those who have failed to take part in an interview.
  • Housing benefit and council tax benefit should not be specified benefits for the purposes of a work-focused interview.

Footnotes
1. Para 2.30 The modernisation of Britain’s Tax and Benefit System, Number Six: Tackling Poverty and Making Work Pay – Tax Credits for the 21st Century, HM Treasury March 2000 [back to text]
2. 13 April 1999, Hansard, Standing Committee D on Welfare Reform and Pensions Bill, col 686. [back to text]


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